Master Pool & Billiard Instruction Academy Analysis

May 27, 2011

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First World Leader in Billiard Instruction Master Instructor The “Oyster” video analysis to answer question “Elbow dropping D?ring stoke?

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25 Responses to Master Pool & Billiard Instruction Academy Analysis

  1. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    @theshredator 1. Take a look at today’s professional Snooker players (highly-televised/sponsored) most which are professionally trained. (elbow very stable) 2. Take a look at professional golfers before the 80′s and you will see motions all over the place, most with no training, (low-televised/sponsored) 3. Now, look at today’s professional golfers, almost all go through extensive professional training (highly televised/sponsored). 4. American “pool” today is still like #2.

  2. theshredator on May 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    This might be a good way to start beginners to minimize movement, but most pros drop their elbow. Just randomly pick a pro player and search it. If they aren’t dropping their elbow, their opponent probably is. It lets the cue remain level while following through allowing for more follow through. I’m not saying it’s bad to learn this elbow pendulum stroke. It’s good to know all types of strokes for different shots. But I doubt it’s a fluke that most pros drop their elbow.

  3. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    @coachlien Probably if they started playing with their feet, they’d be dropping there knees. Jim Furyk is a top golfer with a loop in his swing. Doesn’t make it wrong, however no golf school in the world teaches it. Stabilizing the elbow takes knowledge and practice within that technique to develop muscle memory. Efren and Earl are top players, Yes and the Wright brothers were top pilots.

  4. coachlien on May 27, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Can you explain why does many top players such as Efren Reyes, Earl Strickland…they do drop their elbw naturally when they finish their stroke?

  5. MrLawliet1992 on May 27, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Dude put some trousers on. good tips though

  6. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    This is called the forward “slip cue”. The cue has momentum at impact and needs re-acceleration to apply the complete rotational KE energy to the cue ball. Most players tighten up at impact, slowing the cue down through the sweet spot. Having the perfect grip pressure allows the cue to continue forward through the hand, and apply the total energy. Knowledge is Power

  7. aardvaark069 on May 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Hey…nice legs. But seriously. If you watch carefully on the final stroke when he gets to perpendicular he releases the cue and it slides forward through the ball without the help of the rear hand. Pretty cool but probably hard to learn to trust . Probably well worth the effort to learn this effort free release.

  8. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    $250 Versace shorts from Milan Italy. Showing the perpendicular extended position of the parallel stance which connects to the perfect stroke. See!

  9. TreuloseTomate on May 27, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Allison does drop her elbow a little on backswing and followthrough – just like any snooker player. Only pool players seem to be obsessed with the pendulum.

  10. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    That is OK! However here at the Academy of the Cueing Arts, hundreds of those people every year are attending classes to figure out which style they should use and “WHY”.

  11. Nostix88 on May 27, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    i dont agree with these types of Instructional vids. yeah its Ok sayin that this is the “correct” way to play but many ppl have there own ways and styles of playing

  12. BilliardInstruction on May 27, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Thanks Cory,

    EXACTLY! Allison’s stroke is about as close to perfect in all Pro players, Men and Women. The cue stick tip touches the table bed at the end of the stroke because the grip (back of the cue) is up, which means the front (tip) needs to be down.

  13. corywilliamson77 on May 28, 2011 at 12:51 am

    Evidently you don’t know too much about a true pro stroke. Look at videos of pro players, especially of Allison Fisher and you will see the elbow stays put as the stick follows through. She actually hits her right breast at the end of the stroke and the cue stick tip touches the playing felt.

  14. BilliardInstruction on May 28, 2011 at 1:37 am

    Pocketpride – More Analysis?? Hmmm! Whatever! Anyway, how is it that I have not dropped my elbow a smidgen in 9+ years and stroke perfectly according to catapult pendulum science and kinesiology?
    Please explain in scientific terms why you feel the elbow needs to drop, even a little? Video would be great. I’ll look for it.
    Good Luck!

  15. pocketpride on May 28, 2011 at 2:00 am

    I agree with MrCue here below. Off course the elbow needs to drop but the question is how far. Even snooker players withe extreme good quality strokes do drop their elbow a bit.

    The question is how much should it drop. Needless to say you shouldn’t exaggerate the drop but a little bit is indispensable. How else would you have a nice follow through during your stroke??

    The maker of this video should do more analysis of strokes of pro snooker and pool players

  16. colomblanco on May 28, 2011 at 2:25 am

    One… Mr Cue Sport has no clue what he’s talking about. Two… What the hell is this guy wearing, he looks like a damn cheerleader.

  17. MrCueSport on May 28, 2011 at 2:47 am


    Question: Should the elbow drop at ALL during the stroke?

    The answer is obviously YES.

    The elbow should drop and needs to drop in the stroke. Here’s why:

    1) The elbow needs to drop to keep the cue on a horizontal plane throughout, if the elbow is ‘frozen’ then it is impossible for the cue to be kept on a single plane and the butt will rise as you draw the cue back on the backswing. The elbow will then be a hinge and the cueing hand will be in the motion of drawing a semi-circle.

  18. JDOMANOG on May 28, 2011 at 3:43 am

    very helpful to a beginning player

  19. 69Karen9 on May 28, 2011 at 4:22 am

    WOW! You are so right! The knowledge you show here is absolutely amazing. Crystal clear and makes perfect sense. Love the black and white room. Great choice of wardrobe and I SEE the reasoning behind it. Thank you very much! You are Awesome!

  20. golfprousa on May 28, 2011 at 5:22 am

    It is very obvious that you clearly know and are passionate about what you are teaching. Fantastic analysis! Golf schools could sure use your teaching expertise explaining golf this way. Your talent is a gift!

  21. MrCueSport on May 28, 2011 at 5:52 am

    Great Video, Well Done!

  22. BilliardInstruction on May 28, 2011 at 6:26 am

    PREMIUM KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! When your brain understands kinesiology of the physical mechanics in the stroke, it will send the correct signal to the specific muscle groups in perfect harmony.

  23. rjt808 on May 28, 2011 at 7:05 am

    Any good drill to ensure the elbow doesn’t drop? Thanks in advance

  24. rejekt14 on May 28, 2011 at 7:47 am

    This is a great video.

  25. rejekt14 on May 28, 2011 at 8:36 am

    This video is great for correcting problems regarding the physical part of the game. I had to pay good money to get this lesson when I should have just came on YouTube. Anyway, it’s another pearl from the A.O.

    Willie Rubin

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